The Dead Files Season 7 Interview with Amy Allan and Steve DiSchiavi – Long Version

Stephanie DePietro: Hi everybody. I’m Stephanie DePietro from Travel Channel. And it’s my pleasure to introduce the panel on the investigative duo from Travel Channel’s popular series The Dead Files, Steve DiSchiavi and Amy Allan.

Steve, a former NYPD homicide detective, and Amy, a physical medium, travel to all-new haunted locations in the show’s seventh season premiering Saturday, April 25.

Steve researches the facts and history behind each location, interviewing witnesses and experts. Amy communicates with the dead to understand what paranormal activity lies within each location. Keeping their investigations separate from one another, they never speak until the end when they come together to reveal their findings for the client.

In the season premiere, Steve and Amy head to Montego Bay, Jamaica, in the first international case to investigate frightening claims of paranormal activity of a tropical resort. And now I turn it over to both Steve and Amy to talk a little bit about the premiere and the upcoming season. Steve?

Steve DiSchiavi: Hi guys. Yes, the season premiere is pretty exciting for us because we’ve never been out of the country doing an episode. This one was in Montego Bay, Jamaica which is pretty exciting because I’ve never been there.

I heard a lot of spooky stuff about Jamaica, but I didn’t realize they had such a rich history as far as uprising and slavery and everything that went with it. So it was pretty interesting to investigate all that.

Stephanie DePietro: Amy?

Amy Allan: Hi everyone. Yes. It was absolutely a fascinating location to do because it’s so beautiful there and yet there’s this darkness that comes from the history of all of the things that happened there and the horrors that befell so many people over such a long period of time.

And so it’s really strange to go to this beautiful island and then do the walk and see all of these horrifying things that happened, and then to go to reveal and learn that it really was just terrible. So it was very shocking; a very shocking case.

Stephanie DePietro: Okay. I think we can start to open up for questions.

Tony Tellado: Hi guys. I’m pretty excited about this season. You guys have been on quite a good roll. I just think the last few seasons you guys have really been really top-notch. You’ve become my favorite paranormal show on television.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Tony Tellado: What’s it like to investigate outside of the country, and particularly for you Steve, because usually you deal with the local authorities in the US? Is it a little different working with them in a different country?

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes Tony. It was a little difficult. Logistically, it was a nightmare. But what I found interesting is how passionate everybody in that country is about their history.

They went through a lot in that country. And everybody wants to talk about it. And everybody has an opinion about what happened in that country. So it was pretty exciting.

And trying to get people to talk about it wasn’t the hard part. It was just getting the facts straight because there was a lot of rumor in that country that’s not really factual.

Tony Tellado: Amy, for your walkthrough, did you experience anything different, being that it was a different environment than you were used to investigate?

Amy Allan: Yes. I definitely encountered individuals that were from time periods that were much further in the past historically than what I’m used to dealing with in America. You know, these people were ancient compared to the entities that I encounter in America most often. And so that was interesting.

And also, just seeing all the trials and tribulations that people went through. And just also the entities that were there that were non-human were very different and very fascinating.

And there’s the spiritual element that people still practice there, and that’s different than in America. They’re much more open there to dealing with these things and appreciating their existence. So that was fascinating.

Tony Tellado: Wow. Thanks guys. It sounds like a really cool episode.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. It is. It’s an interesting episode because of the fact that, where we investigated, they had a story they’ve been telling for years. And…

Amy Allan: Disbelief.

Steve DiSchiavi: They were a little annoyed with me because they weren’t telling the right story. It was actually a fabrication of a couple of different stories that was totally untrue. So I think I annoyed them a little bit with my investigation by bringing out the truth.

Tony Tellado: I’ll get back in line but it sounds like a really great episode.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. It’s going to be a really good one, a really interesting one.

Dan Rice: Hi Steve and Amy.

Steve DiSchiavi: Hey.

Amy Allan: Hi.

Dan Rice: Amy, could you describe the various types of spiritual entities you encounter?

Amy Allan: In general?

Dan Rice: Yes. I’ve noticed on the show, you were saying there’s like demons and poltergeists or something like that?

Amy Allan: Well there are – honestly, it would take a lot of time to go over the various types of entities that exist. But I would say that I am noticing that there are entities that we’ll say are demons or devils. They seem to be becoming more prevalent.

And I call them that because that’s something linguistically that the public can relate to, those types of names, demons and devils, equating to something that’s evil and has never been human.
And poltergeist is actually a living person and extends from a living agent. It’s someone who has psychokinetic abilities and can affect their environment. So those are a couple of the different types of entities that I encounter.

Dan Rice: With this growing number of evil entities, do you think that the world is just becoming more evil?

Amy Allan: I think that people are just becoming more aware of things that are influencing them. And a lot of people talk about the veil of becoming sinner and all of this. I think that is just more of a heightened awareness among living people. And they perceive these things more and more frequently, it seems.

And it’s both good and bad; not just bad but also good. But I think the problem, as far as actually acknowledging that these things exist, is becoming more so than in the recent past.

Dan Rice: And finally, do we all exist on the same realm or is this a case of overlapping dimensions?

Amy Allan: No. There’s definitely different dimensions. Absolutely.

Dan Rice: Okay. Thank you.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Steve Barton: Hey guys, long time no speak. How are you?

Steve DiSchiavi: How are you doing, Steve?

Amy Allan: Hi Steve.

Steve Barton: Hi. I’ve got one question for each of you. And, first of all, Steve, I hope you’re feeling better. I saw that you’re a little under the weather.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I mean I’ve never felt like this ever. And I’m trying to work through it. It’s not that easy but I appreciate that. Thanks.

Steve Barton: I hear you. I mean, as New Yorkers, we’re kind of spunky. So, to take us down, it’s got to be pretty bad.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes, to say the least. I mean I have a high threshold for pain but I think it’s been tested these last few weeks.

Steve Barton: And color me freaking shocked that you were annoying people in Jamaica. Wow, I never would have thought that.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes, right?

Steve Barton: So anyway, my question for you Steve is, now that you guys have started doing investigations internationally which is such a godsend, I’m guessing, for the series itself because, wow, I’ve always wanted to see what would happen in other countries. Is there any place you would want to really go to, or any particular that you’ve heard about, that you and Amy would like to investigate?

Steve DiSchiavi: Well, for me, personally, I’m really interested in learning about other people’s cultures when it comes to the afterlife and what they think. You know, obviously, something’s going on. I have my own opinions but I’m very curious.

I’d love to go to Southeast Asia. I mean areas like Switzerland. You name it, I’d love to go. We have a lot of friends in Australia. I’d love to go down there and see what’s cooking.

Steve Barton: On the Barbie, especially.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. No doubt.

Steve Barton: All right. Awesome. I hope you guys get to do that, man, because we’ll keep watching. Now, Amy, first of all, you’re looking great, darling.

Amy Allan: Oh, thank you.

Steve Barton: Yes. I keep track of you. And I was wondering, now that you guys have been at this for so long, in terms of the non-human entities which you come across, have you ever run across the same one twice? Like have you ever said, “Okay, well this thing was there and now it’s here now?”

Amy Allan: Well, the thing is that there are entities that stem from the same origin. But the thing is that they’ve come from the same starting point but they tend to fracture so they can cover more terrain and, obviously, harm more people. And those are the ones that are demons or devils, or things like that. So they’ll be very similar.

But they each depending on the environment, the way that they present themselves or the things that they’re doing will be different, or there will be variations to what they’re doing.

And it depends on the situation they’re encountering and how they can best wreak havoc, so to speak. So, they’re similar but I don’t think I’ve ever met exactly the same, like photocopies; identical. No.

Steve Barton: All right. Cool. Very interesting. Well, listen, I’ll let someone else talk because you guys know I could yap. But Steve, feel better. And Amy, much love. Stay safe, guys.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thanks Steve. I appreciate it.

Amy Allan: Thank you. Bye-bye.
Abby Normal: Hi. This is Abby Normal.

Steve DiSchiavi: Hi Abby.

Amy Allan: Hi.

Abby Normal: How are you doing?

Amy Allan: Good. How are you doing?

Abby Normal: Congratulations on hitting 90 episodes.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you.

Amy Allan: Yes.

Abby Normal: I’d like to extend my condolences for the passing of Uma.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Abby Normal: I really feel for you.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Abby Normal: And Steve, thank you for enduring through the shingles.

Steve DiSchiavi: I appreciate that.

Abby Normal: What I wanted to know is if you were in another country, Amy, would you be able to understand them? I mean would – do they speak English?

Amy Allan: Actually, you know, I have encountered both, like I’ve come up against dead people who basically refuse to have a translation take place. So they will just speak their language and there will be a communication breakdown. But, more often than not, there is a type of translation that takes place. And I think it’s via guides who are able to play translator for us.

So yes, once in a while, you get one that is just not happening. They’re not going to – it’s not going to happen. It just depends on the situation.

Abby Normal: Is there a real efficient way to send a shadow person on its way?

Amy Allan: Oh, yes. Not in my experience, no. Not in my experience. There are many other people out there who’d say, “Oh, you can get rid of them in this and that.” But, typically, if they’re easily gotten rid of, they probably weren’t really shadow people. They were probably just dead people.

And, shadow people, you’re dealing with beings that are probably inter-dimensional, and they typically will attach themselves to a person or a location. And I’ve never seen them be easily removed without them coming back.

It’s a completely different type of entity than a dead person or, demonic. These are intelligent beings that are utilizing portals. So it’s just very different.

Abby Normal: Do you have a take on why people get scratched by unseen entities and it will usually be three scratches?

Amy Allan: Well there’s different interpretations there. Some people will say it’s the trinity, the sign of the trinity, and therefore it’s demonic which, I’m not saying, if it is or not. If I’m not doing the case, I don’t know.

And then there’s also, you know, power suggestion where you have an actual poltergeist case. Therefore, the person is doing it to themselves. They may have a religious belief system. And so they’re inflicting that upon themselves and in kind of a religious manner with the three – the trinity.

So it depends on the situation. I can’t ever say unless I’m involved in that case, what’s going on, if it’s a poltergeist or if it’s actually demonic.
Amy Allan: Thank you.
Mallory Devenback: Hi. I’m Mallory.

Steve DiSchiavi: Hi Mallory.

Amy Allan: Hi.

Mallory Devenback: Hi. I’m probably going to go step away from the international bit. I was wondering how you decide to go to these different locations such as Falconer, New York.

Steve DiSchiavi: Well a lot of that falls on me and the producers and what we go through when we vet. Amy really doesn’t have input in that because she can’t know where she’s going obviously.

Most of the time, the way things have been going this last three, four seasons, we seem to be getting a lot more submissions where people actually were being physically touched. And a lot of times children are being affected.

So that seems to be one of the things I like to hop on is these kids can’t protect themselves. And the parents are having a tough time trying to figure things out. So, for me, that’s a red flag that I want to really look into it first.

You know, we get a lot of submissions where people say, “I got a friendly ghost in my house. I just want to know what’s going on.” And, for us, we’re not going to waste our time doing that. Our job is to help people that’s going through a tough time.

We have thousands of submissions and most of them are just, “Well, I don’t know who’s in my house. I’m not really sure. But they don’t bother us. We just want to find out.”

I mean that’s all well and good but, that’s not what we do. We’re kind of like the A-team for people that are going through a tough time.

So, when we do look at a case, it’s mostly what the intensity is. I cases we’ve been in Season 1 and 2 we would never do now because the stakes are that high for these people.

It seems that the longer the show is going on, the more people are willing to open up and say, “Well listen, I’m going through this crazy stuff. We’re being physically touched. And I need your help. And at least I know you’ll listen.” So that’s been an aspect of how we’re choosing which cases to pick.

Mallory Devenback: Okay. So for the Falconer case, was that child being touched or was that something else?

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. They had a couple of kids then. They were going through a tough time. And one of their daughter was having a really tough time being physically touched. So we jumped on that.

There’s a lot of deaths associated with that house in particular. A lot of people actually died inside the house. It’s some crazy stuff going on and Amy had a pretty tough walk to it.

Mallory Devenback: Okay. I think I’ll just go back in line.

Emily Mentzer: Thank you. I have a question for you guys about your experience in Independence, Oregon. What can you tell me about your experience at the farm without, of course, giving away anything for the show?

Steve DiSchiavi: Well I could tell you one thing about Independence, Oregon that’s – the stuff these guys were telling me that was going on, I thought I was being punk’d because I never heard anything like it. And basically, I thought they were full of it. I mean the stuff was absolutely bizarre.

But, when we did sit down for the review, it turned out, apparently, whatever they were going through, Amy was able to see, and all of it was pretty much on point. So, the cop in me jumped out and I just never believe anybody 100% anyway.

Emily Mentzer: Okay.

Steve DiSchiavi: That’s just me. But when these guys were starting to talk about things that they were seeing, I’m like, “Yes. All right. You know, this is ridiculous.” You know, this is even over the top for me and I’ve heard it all.

So that case really took me to the point of, “Well you know what? Listen close and listen intently because you never know if this stuff is really what’s going on,” because I just look at these guys like, “Yes. Okay. You’re seeing this? Are you out of your mind?” But it all turned out to be pretty much on point which is kind of scary if you live there.

Amy Allan: Yes. Very, very…

Steve DiSchiavi: Great guys too. Really great guys. They’re really good people.

Emily Mentzer: Okay. And then a question from our readers here at the newspaper is they want to know if you guys have ever – either if you have ever had a spirit follow you home.

Steve DiSchiavi: That’s an Amy thing. I just have stalkers following me. I wouldn’t know.

Amy Allan: Yes. Unfortunately, I had a very large learning lesson or, you know, from last season, and I became very ill. And I was – unfortunately, in my need to help, sometimes I go a little too far. And I was, not in a conscious way, but I was leaving myself open, and I had about 15 dead people attach to me. And I kind of was in denial for a while. And then, finally, I dealt with it. And I am being much better and standing at the proper boundaries.

But it was definitely a learning lesson that, , even somebody who has been a medium my entire life and doing this professionally for over 20 years, sometimes you need to check yourself. And so I definitely had a wakeup call. Yes. It can happen. It can happen. Be careful.

Emily Mentzer: Thank you guys very much.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you.

Amy Allan: Thank you too.

Michael Freeman: Hi Steve and Amy.

Steve DiSchiavi: Hey.

Amy Allan: Hi.

Michael Freeman: I am with a newspaper here in Georgetown, Texas, not too far from Coupland where you all went. And I was just kind of wondering on some details on, you know, what you all experienced out there.

Steve DiSchiavi: Well Coupland, we can’t really get into the details of exactly what happened. But there was a lot of – on my end, there was a lot of horrific tragedy associated with the property between floods and murders. They had a lot of history for a very small area that, when you look into it, you’re like, “Jesus, how the hell did these people survive it?” on top of the paranormal that this couple and their kids were going through.

Amy Allan: It was definitely a very intense case and a lot of concern for the living that are in that situation and dealing with it and, very much so with their children. And I guess that’s really all I can say.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I got bit by a scorpion there too, so that didn’t help either, while I was filming on the front lawn. So, on top of the paranormal, they got some critters out there that aren’t doing any good.

Michael Freeman: Yes, you got to watch out for those. Well I know you all went to Cedar Park which is also near here. And…

Steve DiSchiavi: That was way back in Season 2.

Michael Freeman: I was kind of wondering, from your research, are there certain parts of the country that are more kind of hotbeds for activity or is it just kind of based on history or is it just kind of all over?

Amy Allan: Absolutely. Honestly, the worst states for paranormal activity right now are Kansas, Arizona — oh there’s one recently — Michigan. I think those are my top three.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. Pennsylvania seems to be another hotbed.

Michael Freeman: I guess in the central Texas that you’ve all been here a couple of times.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. We’ve been to Waxahachie. We’ve been to Abilene; Coupland. We just did another episode recently in Texas as well, so.

Amy Allan: Also New Mexico is pretty insane. And I’m just talking as far as actually seeing the dead like wandering the streets, those are the top places I’m referring to are like consistent onslaught of dead and entities that are just everywhere all the time. So I mean that’s kind of what I’m referring to.

Michael Freeman: Okay. Well that was all the questions I have. I’d get back in line and good luck to both of you all. Thank you.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you. I appreciate it.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Abby Normal: Thank you. Fans have asked Amy if you are teaching any classes.

Amy Allan: I will be – well my Web site will be up very soon. I promise. I promise. I promise. It will be up within the next two months. I swear, I swear, I know I’ve said that a million times before.

And the workshops are actually due to start in 2016. And all the information will be on the Web site, as well as the signup forms and all of that. So I can’t wait.

I can’t wait to meet so many people and hopefully help people understand their gifts and get back into being – helping and guiding people. So I’m very excited.

Abby Normal: Okay. On your Facebook page, you’re Amy APR Allan. What does the APR stand for?

Amy Allan: Athenodorus Paranormal Research.

Abby Normal: What is that?

Amy Allan: Athenodorus was actually one of the first paranormal investigators in Greece to actually document and do a scientific research into the paranormal.

Abby Normal: They’re an inspiration for you?

Amy Allan: Yes. Yes, he was. Yes, definitely.

Abby Normal: And Steve, what is the oddest job you ever held?

Steve DiSchiavi: You mean in my life?

Abby Normal: In your life.

Steve DiSchiavi: Geez. That’s a good question. I did a lot of things. I’m trying to think. You and your questions, Abby, they’re so weird.

Abby Normal: I’m trying to come up with things I haven’t heard in other interviews.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I know. I mean that’s a tough one. You caught me by surprise on that one, the weirdest job. Probably, well not weird but I mean I was doing sanitation on a midnight when I was a kid, picking up garbage on a private sanitation route. You’d be surprised what you encounter at the midnight hours picking up trash.

Amy Allan: Ooh. I don’t want to think about that.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I mean I was a kid too, during my misspent youth that you’re well aware of, Abby, so.

Abby Normal: All right. Well thank you. I appreciate the answers.

Steve DiSchiavi: You’ve got it.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Dan Rice: Yes. Steve, of all the clients in the past who didn’t take your recommendations to move out or whatever and suffered further consequences, which case haunts you the most?

Steve DiSchiavi: I got to be honest with you. None of that stuff bothers me because, in my opinion, they got to live there. I mean it doesn’t bother me that they don’t take Amy’s advice. I know a lot of the fans get upset.

But listen, if I go to a doctor and he tells me I have cancer and I decide not to get treatment, who is that on? It’s not on the doctor. It’s on me. So, it doesn’t really concern me.

My thing is I did the best job I could. Amy did the best job that she could. If they didn’t follow the advice and they decided to stay and had a hard time of it, that’s on them. I mean I feel bad that they don’t take the advice but people have to do what they want to do. I have no right to be upset about it.

Dan Rice: Well what were some of the worst consequences that might have happened when they stayed on?

Steve DiSchiavi: Well that would be something Amy would be able to answer more. I mean some of these people – it keeps getting more intense. And I’ve got an email, “Things are getting bad here.” “Well, Amy told you to move. When she told you to do what you can’t see and you didn’t do it, there’s not much I could do for you.”

Amy Allan: Yes.

Steve DiSchiavi: What happens is that Amy tells them straight out, if you don’t move or if you don’t follow the instructions, the way she weighed the outcome, she tells them right off the bat, it’s going to get worse. And, inevitably, it does.

So, in the 90 cases that we’ve done, it’s hard to pinpoint one specific one. But, like I said, I’ve never seen them say, “Well we didn’t take Amy’s advice and everything’s fine now.” It’s always gotten worse.

Amy Allan: Yes.

Dan Rice: Amy, can you mention any consequences that we’re talking about here?

Amy Allan: Well, here is the thing. It’s that when Steve and I come in, typically the activity is going to increase. That’s something that happens because whether the dead people or the entities, they’re aware, and they know that we are there to resolve the issue.

And if people don’t take the advice, like my whole thing now is you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. And I do typically always tell the people, if you don’t do this, that’s your prerogative. That’s your decision.

But, typically, what’s going to happen is, it can be anything from getting physically assaulted, that’s going to increase; possible death; really intense things that can befall these people.

I think Steve and I, we do the best jobs that we possibly can to help. But we can’t force anybody to do anything they don’t want to do.

Dan Rice: Are you aware of deaths that have happened in the houses you’ve checked out?

Amy Allan: Honestly, I think, you know, it would be interesting to go back. And most of the people who don’t want to follow the advice typically fall off the radar.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. So, you know, even if we try to find out what’s going on with them, it kind of just goes by the wayside.

Dan Rice: All right. Well I appreciate it. I look more to – forward to seeing more shows.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Tony Tellado: Hello again guys. I was just wondering, for both of you, what other cases do you have coming up this season?

Steve DiSchiavi: Well, for me, this is an interesting season that’s about to start airing. We had a lot of intense walks for Amy. But, on my end that I can only answer would be, I had a woman explaining what she was dealing with in her bedroom, explaining what she was seeing when she woke up, and when she did, she passed out right in my arms, during my interview.

Later on during the review, Amy had done a sketch and it was exactly what this woman had been telling me what she was seeing. And it was just eerie. It kind of hit home with this woman, obviously.

I had another guy that spent over $100,000 on his own money investigating a double murder from back in the ‘40s that was unsolved. I mean that’s pretty crazy stuff. And, he had his opinion. And, of course, I’ve investigated a homicide or two and I had my opinion. So, stuff like that, it’s pretty interesting. It’s a pretty eclectic season coming up.

Tony Tellado: Cool. And Amy, is there like a process that you go through after a walk to the kind of like, you know, a detox and kind of get that out of your system a little bit?

Amy Allan: Yes. And I’m being extremely vigilant this season; extremely. So now, what I do is I do my closing meditation. I have some kind of shaman, medicine woman, or reiki master come in and actually do a cleansing and a balancing and a detachment for me.

And I eat a lot. And I sleep a lot. And I’m trying to go out into nature so that I can really ground out. So yes. I’m still taking bathes and doing, my salt bathes, and burning my candles and sage, and crystals. I’m doing it all. So yes. And it seems to be working much better.

Tony Tellado: Well good for you. Guys, I’m looking forward to another great season. I mean through the last three or four seasons you guys are on quite a great roll. And it’s always interesting and always leaves you with more questions after you watch your show.

Steve DiSchiavi: I appreciate that Tony. This season’s going to be pretty intense. I think the fans are going to enjoy it.

Tony Tellado: Thank you again guys.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Debe Branning: Hello Amy.

Amy Allan: Hi.

Debe Branning: I’ve been telling you for many years when you – we used to work on this Arizona through Tucson and all that.

Amy Allan: Oh, great!

Debe Branning: Yes. And I was wondering, when you did all your research in Arizona, what did you feel was the most intense place you’ve been? Because I’ve been investigating for the last 20 years as well, so we probably have been to some of the same places.

Amy Allan: We have. So, you know what? I would say, honestly, in Arizona, if you’re looking at the whole state, I would say that Tucson and south of Tucson, whether it’s southeast, southwest, south are…

Debe Branning: Yes. The Bisbee area?

Amy Allan: Oh yes, extremely active. It seems like Tucson and south, it just gets more and more active.

Debe Branning: Right.

Amy Allan: It’s just amazing. It really is. I mean – and the other thing about the shadow people in Tucson and how people literally are able to see – driving at night and see them.

Debe Branning: Yes.

Amy Allan: In the roads. Have you heard about that?

Debe Branning: Yes.

Amy Allan: Yes. It’s crazy.

Debe Branning: I live in the Phoenix area but I do have a second home down in Bisbee. And just being there, knowing people and stories, true stories of things that really happened, it is pretty bizarre down there.

Amy Allan: Yes. We spent quite a bit of time down in Bisbee and Tombstone and the Tucson area doing a lot of research for many years. Yes, a very fascinating place.

Debe Branning: And my other question is we’ve heard what you do after you’ve come from these investigations, what do you do to prepare your mind and your body? Do you do any kind of cleansing before you go into a location?

Amy Allan: I do now – I do a reiki protection.

Debe Branning: Okay.

Amy Allan: That’s new that I’ve added. And I do carry stones, several different types, depending on what my guides tell me to take that night. I do try to eat well that day. And I do about an hour’s worth of meditation work.

Debe Branning: Okay. Great. Thanks. Well we’re looking forward to your new shows and I’ll step aside and let someone else come on. Thanks.

Amy Allan: Well good luck down there.

Debe Branning: Oh yes.

Steve Barton: Hey guys.

Steve DiSchiavi: Hey Steve.

Steve Barton: Long time no speak. I feel like we just spoke, but anyway.

Amy Allan: Really?

Steve Barton: I know. It’s amazing. So Steve, one of the things that makes – first of all, you and Amy just have such great chemistry together. It’s almost like a brother and sister a bratty kind of thing at some point. It’s wonderful to see and it’s just hilarious at times.

But one of the things that makes the show so special is Steve’s no-bullshit attitude. And I was wondering how that attitude applies to the vetting process for cases. And I was wondering if you could describe what the process is to vet these cases that are brought to you.

Steve DiSchiavi: Well, some of it, I really can’t get into publicly. But my biggest thing is I don’t want somebody that’s a B-list act that’s trying to get back on TV, obviously. I don’t want somebody that’s been arrested for fraud or, somebody that’s used to duping the public.

But, it’s hard to interview somebody on the phone and get a feel for them. So I’ve been doing a lot of these video conferences where I can get to see them. You know this Skype type thing? Which – it helps me tremendously.

Obviously, you’re never going to know somebody 100% no matter how well you vet. I mean we’ve seen that in politics – It doesn’t matter how good you vet somebody. Something’s going to come across – slip through.

The main thing for us is that you see where we go. It’s middle-of-the-road, people that we’re not talking about some, people that are on Broadway and, high-saluting (highfalutin) money people. But although we do have some clients that are pretty well off, it doesn’t mean they don’t have problems.

We just try to get the regular, everyday person that couldn’t be afforded the help that we can give them. You know what I mean? People of means can get help any way they want. People that we go to, really, have nobody to turn to. They don’t know what to do. So when I do the vetting, that will come across when you see the desperation in these people.

Steve Barton: That’s really wonderful. And it has to be very rewarding for you guys to be able to help somebody. I mean it’s one thing to be doing what you love and being on TV and all that. But the fact that you guys get to actually perform a service that helps people, it has to be incredibly rewarding.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I mean for me it is. I mean I’m sure it is much for Amy. I had a career where I dealt with a lot of misery that was never resolved. At least now, what I do with Amy’s help, obviously, it’s a little bit more of a closure or had a closure for the most part.

Steve Barton: Sure. And, I’ve got a couple of questions for Amy that I’m just dying to ask. One of them – and these are just things I’ve always wondered. And I speak to Zak from Ghost Adventures and all those guys. And I always ask them the same question.

And the question I had is when did ghosts start becoming a thing? And what I mean by that even though it sounds kind of weird is there is a plethora of supernatural shows on the air. And you guys have absolutely one of the – absolute best of them in terms of feeling rooted in reality.

And what I had always wondered is when people go to these locations, they always seem to make contact with either some of the people that had lived there or were associated with it. But what about like cavemen ghosts? You know what that means? When did ghosts start becoming like audible to the point? You know what I mean?

It’s kind of a hard question to ask but I’m just really curious. How come no one has really run across like an ancient ghost or, something like that?

Amy Allan: I think everybody has their theories. I know that – when I was living overseas, I was staying in Vienna at one point and I could hear screaming from the catacombs and the courtyard in there. I was walking at night through my house and could feel people’s feet touching my head.

And I found out that the plague victims had been put there – there had been the whole religious crusades, and apparently, at one point, there’s has been a Catholic church or something, and they had hung all of the folks that were attending the mass.

So what I’ve encountered, as far as how old, I can say I’ve encountered residual – very, very old residual information, obviously going back by about 1500s. But I have not ever seen like a dinosaur or a Neanderthal or anything like that.

And I would love to go to Asia or to Africa and really see how far back can we go and perceive the dead? My theory is that, eventually, at some point, people do work out their issues and move on or some people just dissipate.

Steve Barton: And that is absolutely the best answer I’ve ever gotten to that question. So thank you.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Steve Barton: Really quick, I have one last question then I’m out of here. So, just for argument’s sake, when Steve comes to you and says, “Hey Amy, I’m thinking about buying this new house,” does he have you do a walkthrough first?

Amy Allan: Well he’s never done that, so.

Steve Barton: It’s because if you were my friend and I was buying real estate, I’d be like, “Hey, Amy, check this shit out over here for me, please.”

Steve DiSchiavi: You know what it is? I check out the neighborhood. I don’t worry about the inside. That’s my main thing.

Amy Allan: I just check it out and make sure no crazy murders were taken place there and all those kind of stuff. So, I think it’s pretty preventative care there.

Steve DiSchiavi: Well look at it this way, if the show ever goes south, you have a total career of doing that. You’d be like the first one.

Steve Barton: Guys, again, thank you so much for your time and much love.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you. I appreciate it.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Erica Meadows: Hi. My name is Erica Meadows. I’m with The Hollywood Times. And I love your show very much. And I actually am a big fan. And, when I babysit, my friend’s kids next door, they get excited because we can watch. It’s The Dead Files and mommy doesn’t know.

Steve DiSchiavi: That’s great.

Erica Meadows: So they actually were very interested in – and this is coming from a 9-year-old.

Amy Allan: Okay.

Erica Meadows: What is going to be new about the brand new season? What can they look forward to? Because, they want to make sure they’re not going to be too scared. And, it’s going to be fun. How different is it? I mean they’re not scared to watch the show. They’re just very excited and they want to know what’s coming up.

Steve DiSchiavi: That’s a tough one to ask and it’s from a 9-year-old. I mean the show is, on the outside looking in, I guess you’ll consider it scary. I mean, while I’m doing it, I don’t consider it scary. I look at it as an investigation.

But, I think the season premiere, us being in Montego Bay, that’s going to be pretty interesting because that’s a backdrop you’ve never seen on our show before.

I mean it’s probably one of the most beautiful islands I’ve ever been to, interviewing the different and interesting people other than the normal, running to know the experts that I normally would interview, so that episode is going to be pretty interesting.

And throughout the whole season, on my end, there’s a lot of great history in regards to cases that – open homicide cases that have happened.

One even touched on a serial killer, the Cleveland butcher, in Pennsylvania, so there’s a lot of stuff like that. And I mean Amy had a tough season as far as the walks went. So I don’t know if you want them to watch all that but it’s going to be…

Amy Allan: Yes. It’s pretty scary.

Erica Meadows: Well I pretty much have watched them before. And, we’re watching when it plays over again and stuff like that, or when they come over, I’ve already watched it in TiVo, and I know.

I’m pretty bit cautious but they love the history part and they love how the history is proven when Amy comes and just proves everything right. And it’s really – just really intense, I guess.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I mean we were talking about it earlier how every season that we do, we keep saying, “Oh, how much more intense could it get?” And it just seems to get more and more intense as the seasons go on.

Amy Allan: So much; so much more.

Steve DiSchiavi: Yes. I mean to the point of, I was mentioning earlier, I had a client actually collapsed in my arms talking about what she was going through. So that kind of stuff.

Erica Meadows: So what is the one thing you both want people to know about your show? So when I write about it in the paper that I can tell people, “This is what they want to know. This is what this show is about. This is where their heart is. This is where they’re coming from.”

Steve DiSchiavi: Well, you know…

Amy Allan: Education. I’m really hoping that people are learning more and more about how to do a correct and proper investigation, how to help both the living and the dead, to have respect for the dead, and just learning different protective measures that they can take.

Erica Meadows: Great. Amazing. Steve?

Steve DiSchiavi: On my end, it was basically – I just want people to know that somebody’s willing to listen. If anybody is going to be a skeptic, I’m a New York City homicide detective, born and raised in Brooklyn. I mean I was raised that everything is bull. Everything is a baloney.

So, for me, it’s my way of saying, “Listen, if I can embrace this and want to help people just to know that it’s coming from a good place, it’s coming from my heart that I really want to help these people.”

Erica Meadows: Perfect. Thank you so much.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you.

Amy Allan: Thank you. Be safe.

Emily Mentzer: One more question for you guys. Amy, sometimes you look so shocked to hear what Steve is reporting to the very end at the reveal. What’s so shocking about it? Because you’ve seen the thing and Steve has done the research, and then you just looked like, “Oh my goodness. This is very true.”

Amy Allan: Well, to be perfectly honest, I will never stop testing myself ever. I am an open-minded skeptic and that’s why I do things the way that I do them. That’s why, initially, when I began working as a scientist, as a parapsychologist doing research and testing people who claim to have abilities, so I’m always a skeptic. I always proceed as an open-minded skeptic.

And so, whether it’s myself or somebody else that they put through these walks and such, it is. It’s always like the one thing I do want to relate is that no person who’s a sensitive knows or understands completely how the hell this all works.

And so it is always quite really amazing, like, “Huh? How on earth is this still happening?” Like, “Where does this come from? Why can I do this? How does it all work?” And that’s something I think that any sensitive is going through and has gone through. And yes.

Emily Mentzer: Okay. Thank you very much.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thank you.

Amy Allan: Thank you.
Abby Normal: Two fan questions just came in. For Amy, do you have spirit guides who stay for only a while? And what does it feel like working with a new guide?

Amy Allan: Oh no. My guides, I work with the same guides. I’m probably too much of a paranoid person to be cool with new guides showing up. I’ve worked with different dead people, good dead people who might show up and say, want to guide me through a walk.

Just on a recent case, I had an entity that stayed with me the entire time. And I’m cool with that. I definitely – I take it with a grain of salt because I don’t know them and I haven’t worked with them before, and I don’t know if I can believe them or not. But as far as my guides are concerned, no they’re consistent.

Abby Normal: That’s a good point. The other question was when different types of entities show up, do you get a different taste in your mouth or other physical reaction. And if so, does this help determine what the entity is?

Amy Allan: I don’t know. I’m very fortunate that I don’t smell things. I know a lot of people will have that sense that they get sulfur and things like that. That’s very rare for me.

No, I just see them. So I mean I don’t know. I see them. I feel them, as far as like if they’re sick or, if they got shot, things like that. But yes, I don’t know. Smells, no, not so much.

Abby Normal: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. And Steve, thank you for your service.

Steve DiSchiavi: Thanks Abby. I appreciate that.

Amy Allan: Thank you.

Abby Normal: Thank you.
Stephanie DePietro: Okay. Well that’s all we have time for. Thank you everybody. Thanks Amy and Steve. Thanks for joining us today. Once again, the new season of The Dead Files, Season 7, premieres next Saturday, April 25, at 10:00 pm Eastern and Pacific on Travel Channel.

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